Wednesday, October 24, 2018

Blog 12 - Wednesday, October 24, 2018

Last week, we finished reading the novel Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury.

Did you enjoy reading this novel?

Explain what you liked or disliked about it.

Would you recommend Fahrenheit 451 to other Secondary 3 students? Explain.





53 comments:

  1. I really liked to book Farenheit 451. I think my favorite part was the dystopian setting of the book. The characters where also very well written. Montag felt real and you could see him judging his values against the new ideas he was being exposed and that struggle felt real. The part I really did nt like was the ending. I expected Montag and the Hobos to go and meet Faber maybe even find a way to take down the government or something but instead we got a city destroyed by a bomb and then they go to fix it or something? I was not satisfying and feel it could have been done better.

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    1. I do not think it would have been realistic to have the hobos and Montag take down the government since it is not like they can take the military that would most likely be sent after them.

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    2. Nice blog Cris! I also agree the ending wasn't the best.

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    3. Good blog. I also think they had good characterization.

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    4. how this government has weapons capable of annihilating continents (see my blog) how are 4 old professors and one pyromaniac going to fight that.

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    5. The will figure it out

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  2. I personally enjoyed Farenheit 451. It is an entertaining book that grabs the readers attention with the non stop action and character development. I think the main reason why this book was so captivating was because it talks about a society and world so different from ours that challenges our beliefs. I do not have any problems with the book because I can't think of a better way to have done it, I'm not saying that the book is perfect though.

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  3. Personally, I didn't find this book very amusing. Therefore, if I would have bought this book and read it on my own time, I would have gotten bored around half way through it. Although I didn't like this novel that much, I do still think this was a amazingly written novel. I am very into suspense, action and adventure books and movies because they keep me so cativated. I also hated the ending. I thought the author really lacked in this art of the novel. He could have made it more exciting at the end. I would suggest this book to Secondary 3 students but no grade under that.

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    1. I agree I didn't like the ending either. I think if the author supplied the readers with more information relating to what happened in the end it would have made the book a lot more interesting.

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  4. I hated the book it was annoying to read though it does have a good plot and story line I just didn't enjoy reading. It was better than adventures with Ulysses from sec 1 but that is it. It wasn't the best book it just had a weird ending to the book it was difficult to do but you know what I will still give it props for having a good plot. But sorry I do not and I said DO NOT recommend it to the other sec 3's of next year.

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    1. Really? I think it has a great plot, but I have to agree the ending was odd.

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  5. I liked the book because of how deep it was. It had alot of meaning Wich was good motivation to read it. However I the ending was so anticlimactic, I thoght they were going to start a new society but all they did was go back to the Brocken down city and that is how it ended. The book had a very interesting perspective on the future of planet earth

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    1. I agree. I very much enjoyed the book and thought it was really well written, but the end was definitely not as interesting as I'd hoped. Great Blog!

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  6. I have some mixed feelings about the book. While I enjoyed the theme of it and how in a sort was a warning to the world about the dangers of censorship and ignorance, it had some moments when it got really, extremely boring. For example, I found the part when Montag is on a metro and gets annoyed by a noise a very useless subject to bring up.I mean, good for you, a noise is pissing you off. Maybe right a little paragraph, but don't stretch it over two pages.
    Overall, I would rate this book seven on ten.

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    1. I also think that there were many useless parts like that.

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  7. I actually really enjoyed it, when we originally got it I wasn't very happy because i mean it's reading, but when Mr. Katz told me that it was a great book I decided to give it a chance. It was a very different book and I loved that, personally I love original things and this is one of them, I've never read anything close to it. Overall I'm very glad we read that and I'm looking forward to the next book.

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  8. I loved this book. I loved the theme and the aspect of dystopia. It wasn't an unrealistic dystopia at all like "The Hunger Games" or something, it was a dystopia I could see coming. I see some aspects of the book that are already coming into play now. Parlor walls, giving kids electronics so we don't have to deal with them and the continuous governmental manipulation are all things in the book, that add to the dystopian theme, that I see today. I think thats one of the reasons I liked the book so much, because it was a realistic and valid dystopia. One thing I didn't like though, was the sudden ending. I feel like it could have been thought out a little bit better and ended a little more creatively but otherwise I thought it was an amazing book and I very much enjoyed it and would definitely recommend it to all sec 3 students and all high school students in general. Is ignorance really bliss? I don't know. Is being numb incapable of feeling pain? Yes it is, but the damage is still being done even though you can't feel it. To me, that's how I'd describe the society in Fahrenheit 451. That's the best thing about this book. You think. You think and think again, until you know thinking is the best thing for you. Think.

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    1. if you read my blog you won't think it to be realistic

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    2. It's not a realistic dystopia though. And besides, dystopias are supposed to be unrealistic and fictitious. The first problem is that firemen are burning books. I feel like Bradbury was too lazy to create a new job title. The other being that the government is actually able to employ these laws. In the united states this would never happen. Things like the aspects in this book is the reason why americans have 3 branches or the government for the laws. It's just as unrealistic as any other dystopian novel.

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  9. Im not a novel guy. Im more of a geronimo stilton kinda person. But I have to say this novel was pretty good. I really liked how he detailed the characters. I really hated the ending. I wasent satisfied, the ending was like getting a half eaten chocolate bar. I would recommend this book because its an interesting read and it shows us how are society is going to end up (my opinion).

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    1. I agree. It is a warning to society about the dangers of ignorance.

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    2. Great blog and I totally agree how this a warning

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  10. Personally, I enjoyed this novel quite a bit. In the beginning, I didn't really like it, but I think the end really carried the book. I really like how the main character developed. Montag went from burning books to reading and enjoying books

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    1. He may have turned around as a character but it was just boring the entire way through.

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  11. I really did enjoy reading Fahrenheit 451. It's crazy to think that this book was written 65 years ago. Most of Bradbury's predictions are present in today's society. I think the main reason why I liked it so much was because the novel was very original and not like any of the books I've read in the past. The only part I didn't like was how Clarisse was killed off so early in the book after building and developing her character. I also wasn't too fond of the ending I found Bradbury left the conclusion to vague> I would have loved to have had more detail.

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    1. I would recommend this book to other sec 3's.

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    2. I agree, Clarisse was a really good character, and it was sad to see her gone so early.

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  12. In did enjoy this book. It showed us a completely different society that we might actually become. I do admit at the beginning of the book it was a bit slow and boring. But once we got to the middle it got interesting. I didn't enjoy the end of the book though I found it could have been better written and done better. I would recommend this book to my friends. I do think it's something that they would also enjoy.

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    1. Glad you enjoyed the book Cara. Great blog!

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  13. I actually enjoyed reading the book. There were parts that i found really boring though. I thought it was a great idea for i book and i was really curious to see how it ended while reading it. It's so weird how that could possibly what our world is going to look like because this author has predicated a few things. I thought the ending was just okay. I fell like i was expecting a little more and i finished the book thinking it had a strange ending. I probably wouldn't read this book on my own time but i thought it was a good book to read in class.

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    1. I agree completely there were dull moments but it did keep me entertained

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    2. I agree I feel like the ending was just a bit odd compared to the rest of the book.

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  14. I would totally recommend this to other secondary 3's. I personally find that this dystopian society unfortunately is a little real today. I did not like the fact that the author had to kill Clarice. I know they are demonstrating the world in this book, but they killed her off quickly, she deserved better. Something I did like about this book, is that it has a hopeful ending.

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    1. I definitely agree that Clarissa was gone so fast! It’s like she was a super important part of the story but she was barely in it. Awesome blog Karishma!

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  15. There were lots of twists and turns throughout the novel and it was semi difficult to follow, I'd have to read in a quiet room to understand what was happening, it definitely was different from the other books I've read throughout my life, and I would recommend it to sec 3-4's because it takes a lot of brain to focus on the main idea and what's happening in the story. The society that was shown in the novel is also in my opinion; a bit real in our world, we're constantly on our phones/electronics not admiring the real world (Montag wandering)

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  16. I found this book to be mediocre, the premise was good but it went down the drain once they started to have holes in the plot and historical inaccuracy a plenty. It started when Bradbury made inaccurate references to the V2 flying bombs with which he described as a plane yet in fact they were actually a guided rocket. This is a negligible offence yet it doesn't stop there which brings me to my largest issue with this book. The bomb that was dropped on the city in Fahrenheit 451 is confirmed to be an Atomic one because Bradbury was influenced by the bombing of Hiroshima ten years prior to the writing of this book. We are never given the dimensions of the city but Ray Bradbury based of Los Angeles and it is assumed that he pictured a city twice it's size. The size of Los Angeles is 1,302km^2 let's give Bradbury the benefit of the doubt and say this city is twice the size of Los Angeles in the 50s since I cannot find any public records on the matter. The bomb that was dropped on Hiroshima deployed at the optimal height delivering a destruction radius of at least 1.6km^2 where everything is reduced to rubble with the description of the city in Fahrenheit 451. This bomb contained 2 lbs of uranium which translates to 16KJ of energy. So that means the bomb used on the city was 814 times that used on Hiroshima, which would require 1,628lbs of Uranium.

    Now the firestorm of Hiroshima meaning the amount of space that was quite literally engulfed in flame was 3.2km in diameter of the blast site. which if we find the area is approx 5km^2. 5x815=4,075 which is the firestorm radius around the city. While he is limping away from the city Montag notes that he feels like an old man. The distance he would need to walk to clear the firestorm alone is 442km which is the radius between th obliteration point and the end of the firestorm. If he travels at 2.5 km an hour it would take him 177 hours to arrive at his goal. Keep in mind this is without stopping at all or slowing down. We are not taking in the river and the hills or the night he slept with the Harvard Hobbes I did some rough estimates which I don't care to explain because I have been at this for 2.5 hours but most if not all of North America will feel the effects of this bomb not even, this was a very conservative estimate because I assumed Montag was exaggerating when he said the city was baking powder because that would require a blast tens of thousands times more explosive. Either way everyone dies, happily ever after.



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    1. I didn't think you got the question enough, it was not how realistic the book was. the book wasn't a history or science book ad isn't meant to be analyzed as one. this book was mean to portray an idea and to start inquiry on what a society can become leading down automated and fast moving technology. Frankly that 2.5 hours you spent researching those facts were useless for understanding the meaning of the book and focused on none of the things that we ever discussed in class. Save this for a free blog and then I will complement it.

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  17. I honestly and truly really enjoyed this novel, Ray Bradbury is a very well written and descriptive writer .
    And personally I found the novel to be super interesting on the way it perceives the future and what could quite possibly be a reality for our society in years to come, that being said there were also i couple critiques I can make for example I reallu didn’t like how the author built up Clarisse so much as a character to kill her so quickly with almost zero explanation

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    1. well she was killed off for a reason and that was to explain to the reader how awful this society is, i would've liked to see her develop more as a character as well

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  18. I liked the the book. It made me think which is really good. I also really liked the inquirer question for this novel. I found it cool that I didn't get bored elaborating on it because when we read the same book for a long amount of time that can happen. I loved the class discussions that came along with the book. To conclude I am kinda upset it's over it was a great read.

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  19. I tolerated this novel because it described how the future might turn out if we start to censor all of our information in a very negative way. I liked how the author put a lot of work in the plot but I also think that this book ended on a cliffhanger and that Montag didn’t really finish his mission. By this, I mean that all Montag really did was run away from the cops and kill his captain, he didn’t do anything to help society. I think that I would have liked this book more if it had a better ending instead of it dragging out the unimportant details. I would give this book a 5.5 on 10 and I would recommend it to people that enjoy reading detailed books but who don’t mind if the book has a weird ending.

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  20. I really enjoyed the novel. One of my favourite parts about it was how it was written in 1953, and it’s Ray Bradbury’s perception of the future. It’s his idea of how it will turn out, or at least one of his guesses. I think I’m a way it was a bit of a wake up call for some of us readers, because you see how in the novel society has gone crazy. Right is left and up is down. But that’s for us, for them it’s completely normal, and the thing is I’m sure if 60/70 years ago or even just ten years ago, people knew how much we’d be on our phones and how many people have phones and how easy it is to access anything, they’d all think maybe we’re going a little crazy in a way. So for us, I think we can kind of see a little how we are also always on our electronics, and very affected by social media and society in a way, just like in Fahrenheit 451. Now I think some of us have spent a little less time on social media and looked at the world around us, which is really cool how a book made some of us re think our life like that. So in all I really liked it, but I felt like the ending was a little rushed. Montag met the Harvard hoboes and then the war happened and literally in an instant it was over. So feel like they could’ve added something or even dragged that out for even longer. Maybe we could’ve learned even more about Granger...?

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  21. I'm not really sure how I feel about this book. Ray Bradbury is an amazing author and is a really detailed writer, but almost too good that it kind of gets annoying. I really don't like reading a whole page about one small thing. I also really don't like how he killed off Clarisse in the first few pages, I was eager to see how she would change Montag's views of books and basically everything throughout the whole book. The ending of the book also kind of made a bit mad cause it was kind of a boring ending especially since the author didn't make a second book.

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    1. I agree that the ending was boring and I think the author should've made second book. great blog!

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  22. I didn't really like the book much. It was mediocre and had issues with continuity. I found the entire premise stupid because of how firemen were the ones to burn books. Bradbury couldn't even have made a new job title. It's stupid how they chose firemen to be the sole people to do this. I also had issues with the continuity. The Pedestrian is a spin-off from Fahrenheit 451, and in this book they state that the police force had been reduced to just one police car per city, meanwhile Montag is running around the city with an entire helicopter chase after him.
    The end also wasn't that great. It didn't leave you with any closure, and there's no sequel to wrap it up. I think that he just wanted to publish the book and didn't bother writing a good ending. It just ends off with a bomb dropping and we have no idea what happened to Montag or the Harvard Hoboes. It was also boring the entire way though.

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  23. I honestly really enjoyed reading this novel. I love the plot and the main theme behind it all. I was always intrigued to keep reading because most of the time there was something exciting to read about. I would recommend this book to anyone who hasn't read it yet because it shows what society may or can become. I think that most Sec. 3 students are looking for books with a lot of detail and action and I think this book captures that and more. After reding the novel, I have much more appreciation for books and the education that we are able to have now. Sometimes you would have to read a few pages to get to what you wanted to hear which kind of annoyed me but not to an extent of disliking the novel. There were a few moments that were boring and sometimes it was hard to follow what was happening but I still enjoyed reading the book. One thing that I really didn't like was for sure the ending. It was vague and there was no closure to the book. I was disappointed with that. I liked the book and I feel like there should've been a second one to see what the society would've been like after they rebuilt it.

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  24. I enjoyed reading this novel so much. Everything about it was amazing and Ill explain why I liked all the parts that people didn't like. Clarisse dying so suddenly with no thought or explanation was to show us the fast pace in the society. Our classmates thought it was bad writing but it was just the opposite. If the author would be spending time writing about Clarisse dying it would take away from the whole lesson of this society. Another thing is how the end is left on a cliffhanger. A lot of people didn't enjoy it but I thought it was really clever, how the phoenix burnt up and ends with a rebirth and how Fahrenheit 451 ends with a rebirth, the past society burnt up and we are left with a a blank slate and a new chance.

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    2. I liked the way you put it. Totally agree with what you said, Peter

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  25. For the most part, I really enjoyed reading Fahrenheit 451. This novel was yet another example of Ray Bradbury incredibly poetic and descriptive writing skills. I liked the book’s main plot line as well as the messages it conveyed and questions it brought up. The dystopian society the book was set in, like many, was dangerously similar to what could come to be of our own society in the future. Montag’s character development is also something that was done very clearly in the book. Not unlike most books though, the book had its own lulls and points that I found were rather unnecessary. I find that the things in the book that caught everyone off guard, like Clarisse’s death, were actually very effective in proving the author’s point of how very sudden and unexpected things were like in that society. While I acknowledge the book’s abrupt ending was slightly lacking in many ways, I feel that it fits as the ending. It would have been very predictable if everything ended up alright, if everything had its own closer. It would have felt almost forced. Though I would have liked if the book left us with a little more to go off of, as I would with a number of other books and movies, I think that the author left the ending as is to let the readers think for themselves, and imagine the ending as the would like. This is not an uncommon thing in these types of stories of discovery. I would definitely recommend this book to other secondary three students as well as those who enjoy these types of stories.

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  26. This book tells us a lot about our society today and how things may be in the future. I loved all of the topics that the book brings to the table and discussing them in class with you guys. However, the book lacks something very important, that being a satisfying conclusion. I found it rushed and vague but i also think that maybe it wasn't ass bad as we thought, but that the quality of the previous pages were so good that Bradbury used up most of his creative power and left us disappointed after the story ended

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